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Beyond Anxiety: Unveiling Depressive Anxiety and Natural Remedies

By Dr. Nicole Cain ND, MA

Feeling hopeless and anxious? Discover the root cause of Depressive Anxiety and natural solutions for lasting relief.

This interview with Dr. Nicole Cain is a continuation of the 9 types of anxiety series interview with Megan Bliss. In this snippet, Dr. Nicole sheds light on one of the 9 types of anxiety, Depressive Anxiety, its unique characteristics, and how past experiences can contribute. Explore natural remedies like herbs and discover a powerful question to guide your healing path.

Depressive Anxiety: The 9 Types of Anxiety

There’s also depressive anxiety. And so this is quite different. We have one person over here and they’re raging and their anger is just like bursting out of them, but they’re really panicking. Like really on the inside. They’re so insecure and so terrified.

That looks very different versus feeling depressed and hopeless and despairing and worthless and wondering about your exit strategy and feeling like “I have been suffering for so long, and I’ve been doing everything that I’ve been told, and I feel like there’s no end in sight and I’m feeling despairing.”

Those show up in the body differently. The areas of the brain are activated differently.

Your neurochemistry is activated differently.

And so instead of getting thrown in a big bucket of: “Oh, you’re just anxious and depressed!” knowing the nature of the manifestation that is taking place will help you pick strategies that will work better.

Herbs for Depressive Anxiety

And so if we talk about herbs, you want an herb. If you have depressive anxiety, maybe you want something like Melissa, which is Lemon Balm, and that herb has an action of its antidepressant. We call her sunshine for the heart. So it’s an antidepressant.

It lifts your mood. It can relieve anxiety. It’s been studied in clinical trials to be comparable to antidepressants like Prozac. And she’s also anti-anxiety. And so she can calm the worry, calm the racing thoughts. Melissa/ Lemon Balm. She’s so good for that.

Lavender is another Depressive Anxiety plant that works so well for depression and anxiety. The lavender flowers have isoflavones, polyphenols, antioxidants, and so it’s really good at going into the brain and calming that inflammation in the brain.

And we know inflammation in the brain can make us feel anxious and depressed. It can interfere with things. And so lavender can be really good for that.

Tincture of lavender flower is not the same as lavender essential oil

There’s a difference I want to emphasize between lavender essential oil and lavender the tincture. And so lavender essential oil does tend to work really well in the studies where using it with olfaction, we see that it can stimulate areas of the brain to cause a release of GABA to calm you in the brain. And you can also apply it topically. It has permeability where it can be absorbed and cause increased GABA.

How to use lavender essential oil for depressive anxiety relief

If you want to use lavender essential oil topically, my favorite places to put it would be close to the vagus nerve. And so your vagus nerve will run up your neck. You’re going to have the best luck either placing it in the bowl of your ear. So if you find your little ear lobe here and you just go up and then down into that bowl, not the hole, but the bowl.

Just kind of massage it in your ear there. That could be a really good place to just put a little dab of essential oil. And then the permeability, it will go straight into your vagus nerve.

Stimulating the vagus nerve with essential oils to calm anxiety

And that vagus nerve is amazing. It’s like the light switch. It turns on calm-on-command. So if you’re like, “I feel really stressed. I feel really anxious. I kind of tend to be a little bit more in the depressive anxiety side.”

Just a little bit of dab here [bowl of ear] can be really helpful.

Another place is, if you just want it to absorb straight into the bloodstream, is putting it on the wrist because you have some superficial blood vessels here.

If you feel like “I really love lavender, it works really well. But I’m getting on a plane. I don’t want people to have to smell that. I don’t want them to have to smell my essential oils.”

Right? Here’s a hack. Are you ready for this hack? It’s so good. Are you ready for this? It’s put it on the bottom of your big toe.

Megan: Aha I like that.

A dab of lavender on the toe for scent-free anxiety relief

Dr. Nicole: Because then it’s absorbing through because your feet are highly permeable. And like, we could go in like a whole tangent about feet and reflexology and all that.

But yeah. Put it on your big toe, put on your socks and shoes. You’re gonna absorb the lavender, you’re going to get that good GABA goodness. And so that’s a hack for that.

Next up is endocrine anxiety. That’s what you guys are all gurus of endocrine.

Endocrine Anxiety: The 9 Types of Anxiety

Megan: That’s kind of like where we play a lot is in endocrine anxiety obviously.

Dr. Nicole: Endocrine Anxiety Is y’all’s jam. And like, honestly Megan, like you are the endocrine guru. Um, you know about this, Megan, and I’m sure that you’re your community does as well. But I do want to emphasize that.

So like, let’s say that you get diagnosed with Endocrine Anxiety. They’re like, “Oh girl. Progesterone. Totally off balance estrogen. Holy moly. Your FSH is off. Your LH is off. Your testosterone is off.”

The conventional model is to address the problem

Like let’s say that you have “all of the imbalances.” And then your doctors are like, “well, take some birth control or take some HRT and good luck…”

Right? So you can treat your hormone imbalances. And Megan, actually, you came to my group and I think we talked about this in my group: The question that follows should always be: Why?

The holistic and trauma-informed model asks why the problem is occurring.

“Why is this happening?” Then we can ask: “What is happening to result in my body adapting in this way where my hormones are off?

I was in Grand Rapids recently and they had this contest where they were all holding out a mug, and the contest was to see who could hold it out the longest. And so you’re like watching them and you’re like, “Oh, that’s no big deal. I could hold that.”

But then they added the variable where they filled it with different amounts of water. So they were filling it with different amounts of water.

And so this goes into the Stress Diathesis Model where the fuller our metaphorical cup is with stressors or, or irritants or something that we have to deal with, the harder it will be for us to deal with anything else that happens.

The more stress you endure, the more you are going to have to adapt

And so then we have to make adjustments, right? So if you’re if you’ve been going through life and you’ve been getting filled up with all sorts of stress or trauma or toxicity or mold or whatever that is, you’re then going to have to start making adjustments.

And so when I was watching those people, I saw that they were trying to raise their shoulders a little bit, or some people were trying to twist a little bit just to, like, isolate other muscle groups.

Those are called adaptations.

And so holding a cup of water, the goal is to hold a cup of water up as long as you can. The goal [in life] is for you to survive, you to be healthy. But if you’ve been carrying an awful lot of stress, emotional stress, psychological stress, social stress, environmental stress, immune system stress.

You have to adapt to stress in order to survive.

You’re going to adapt to try to be better suited to survive, right? So your hormones have adapted to maybe be estrogen dominant or to maybe have really low testosterone. Whatever it is, it’s an adaptation to something.

What are you adapting to?

And so yes, we can put our hormones back in balance. But your question that you were so worthy of having answered, and Megan is like the guru of this, is to ask, why?

Why have I adapted in such a way that is producing these symptoms? Why am I holding this glass and what is in it?

What is getting in the way of your ability to truly heal?

And so those are obstacles to healing anxiety. And so that could be trauma. It could be environmental toxicity. It could be that you aren’t able to speak your voice or that you’re holding it in like it could be so many different things and you are worthy of figuring out your why.

So yes, you have anxiety. Top of the tier. Treat the anxiety. Okay, I have hormone imbalances: Endocrine anxiety.

Okay, yeah, balance your hormones, babe.

But the bottom of the pyramid, the basic, most important thing that we want to ask is why. So that you can heal that.

End of part 5.

Concluding remarks

In the next part of this series, Dr. Nicole Cain will discuss the 9 types of anxiety, emphasizing Trauma Anxiety and Chest Anxiety.

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This article is for educational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Whenever considering changing your protocol whether it includes a change of medications, supplements, diet or lifestyle, always speak with your primary care physician first.

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